SEN 3390
- It is almost 15 November
- Stuff for SEN
It is almost 15 November … so what ?
From: the editor
This is a note for people applying for World Cup Sanctions, there is a change in process this year! You will have an AMS encounter.
This is something I should have written a couple of weeks back. The 15 November is the date by which World Cup organizers should=must have their FAI/CIAM sanctions in. So I do the sanction request for the Kiwi Cup that is one of the Fab Feb events. It is a NZ event that this flown in the USA. So it has to be approved by the NAC of both NZ and USA. I have worked with both of these countries before and there are very helpful people in both places and it went off quickly. This year I went to the FAI web site to get the latest copy of the application form, only to be told that the form no longer exists and as an organizer I had to enter the application for sanction into the FAI’s AMS system. It gave me instructions in how to get an Organizer’s logon which I did. I made an application for the Kiwi Cup. It was quite clear on important details, like it was hosted in the USA and organized by a different NAC, New Zealand. So I went through everything. At one point it wanted the name of the organizing club and person of authority. It was not comletely clear on so I put what I thought was correct. I got the event entered and it came up with 4 approval steps. They were ORG, NAC, ASC and FAI. It also told me I had to pay the sanction fee by some date in January.
I was able to look and see that for example the people to do the NAC approval were the people I had worked with before at Model Flying NZ and the AMA . But I did not recognize the ORG person. What I should have done was talked to my contacts at MFNZ and AMA to ask what to put there. What the AMS system was checking was as the organizing club OK with the event I was requesting, it had made some assumptions as to what person that should be. It was the wrong assumption and another person has make the same mistake. In talking with our contacts at the MFNZ and the AMA were were able to fix this BUT it took some time.
In looking at information the AMS system about the outstanding sanction requests there are quite a number where the ORG approval has not been given because of people like me not putting in the correct Club and Club person. In many cases it with probably be the contact at the NAC.
Now the next step after the ORG and NAC approvals is the ASC and FAI. To go there I needed to have PAID. The January date was related to when the event was being run NOT to the World Cup approval date of 15 Nov. I was advised by Ian Kaynes to use the Pay Pal option. What I did was in the AMS system was request an invoice and then say I want to pay by Pay Pal. I did that and it went very smoothly and indicated right away that I had paid. What that did was behind the scenes pass it on the CIAM/FAI people who did the approval quite quickly.
The AMS system lets you look at all the events approved and in progress, filtered by a number of criterial. I selected by Aeromodeling and F1. I noticed that there are quite a number of World Cup evets entered but NOT gone all the way through the approval process because they either do not have ORG approval or are Not Paid. Seeing World Cup events need both of those by 15 November , if you have an applicaltion in but it is not approved yet make sure that you have satisfied the criteria.
So don’t leave it until the last minute….
I realize this only applies to a small number if people who actually apply for the sanction but was a little concerned about the number outstanding and probably should have passed on my experience.
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We heard real information was coming for SEN from somewhere the other side of the Colorado but the person was no tsure were to sent it.. So you just got the boring stuff above
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Tables in Excel
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no picture – we might change that
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Roger Morrell