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  1. Oct 2022 AmCup Results and Report
  2. Finals Typo Correction
  3. Official Results
  4. Another Nelson Plug Source
  5. Finals Question

Oct 2022 AmCup Results and Report

Only 3 contests left in this 2022 AmCup contest season, Simpson Cup (Wellington, Kansas), Patterson (Lost Hills, CA) and Az Champs (Eloy AZ). The End Is Near!

The scores may look a bit closer than in earlier years due to the new scoring scheme of 2 point increments and bonus points starting now at 5 entries. Even with that said, we have two of the highest 1st place scores in F1A and F1B: Jama Danier with 112 points and Alex Andriukov with 110 points. Second places are not even close. Next year their competitors should try garlic, silver bullets and crosses.

Just about all the 1st place spots are all but mathematically locked up, casket closed. This means unless there are un-characteristically high entries (ie bonus points) at these contests the current 1st place flyers are sitting pretty in their Black Silk outfits.

The most precarious is Peter Brock on top for the F1E hill with 101 points. Geralyn Jones is second with 86 points. But lurking in the shadows is Tom Ioerger with 77 points but with only 3 scores, 2 at Lost Hills and one at Denver). This year the site rule was changed: 3 scores from one site can be counted (Denver was the only non- Lost Hills F1E site this year). Therefore, Tom could take the lead with a win at the Patterson (the only F1E contest left this year). Vision of a big cowboy hat slowing arises from behind the ridge to give a soft but effective push to the current leader.

An unlikely change of first place would be, for example: Julie Parker would need to win 2 of the last 3 F1S contests with 5 entries (ie 1 bonus point each) to overtake Jack Murphy’s current score of 104 points. That of course assumes Jack does not attend to protect his position. Jack could do this by flying at the last contests or perhaps in other spooking ways. A tie does Julie no good in that Jack has two 26 point and seven 25 point tie breaker scores. Jack has scored in 14 of the 20 F1S contests flown to date! We have not seen this level of competition since Dick Woods. That’s a scary thought.

It may look like Ben Tarcher could catch Jack Murphy in F1Q being only one point behind. His problem is there has been only one contest in F1Q so far with a bonus point. Jack won it, the Kotuku Cup with entries literally spread from coast to coast. The probability of 5 or more entries at one the last 3 contests is slim…. oh and Ben would have to win. Although, if Ben did win a 1 bonus point contest for the tie, Ben with the current scores would win the tie breaker. How will the leader, Jack-O-Lantern respond?

I’m tied with Blake Jense in F1H with 100 points— not a single bonus point contest this year. Perhaps I should build 4 top kicks and hand them out at the Wellington contest— I think not, Blake beat me heads up at 3 contests this year and has five 25 point tie breaker scores waiting on the gallows. Blake has demonstrated his F1H superiority this year as he drove all other competitors back to their dark hiding places (Texas being one).

The FAI power events (F1C,J, P) are looking grim. Perhaps the Grim Reaper should put these events out of their misery. In these 3 events, only 3 flyers, Faust Parker (F1C&J), Bob Hanford (F1P) and Mike Fedor (F1P), have meet the 3 contest site requirements. Our shiny heroes, keeping Power ALIVE!

Trick or Treat! That’s a wrap for now– send corrections to my email (below).

Jim Parker
SCAT AmCup Ghoulish Administrator
<N89015@aol.com>

America Cup results – with individual placings

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 9 1
Kiw 14 2
NAC 6 3
MM 15 4
SCA 9 5
SAN 4 6
NCA 1 7
Srn 3 8
Spe 1 9
Act 1 10
Cas -x- 11
Hat 3 12
I-C -x- 13
COL 2 14
CEN 3 15
NAT 6 16
Hur 6 17
Can 5 18
Bro -x- 19
NWC 4 20
NWx 4 21
TCC 3 22
Rck 1 23
Har 4 24
USF 4 25
Kot 8 26
Ser 14 27
Sim 0 28
Pat 0 29
AZC 0 30

F1A
1 Danier, Jama 112 Kiw-1 NAC-1* MM-1 Hat-1* NAT-1 Hur-1 Can-2*
2 Rosenzweig, Shlomi 106 SWR-1 MM-2 SCA-4* NWC-1 NWx-2* USF-1
3 Parker, Jim 103 Kiw-4 NAC-3* MM-4* SCA-5* Srn-2* Spe-1 NAT-2 TCC-2* Ser-1
4 Barron, Andrew 101 MM-3 Hat-2* Hur-3* Can-1 Har-2 Kot-2 Ser-4*
5 Puhakka, Risto 94 SWR-4 Kiw-5 CEN-1 NWC-3* NWx-1
6 Brocks, Peter 90 NAC-5* SAN-1 COL-1 CEN-3 NWC-4* NWx-4
7 VanNest, Brian 88 SWR-5 MM-5 SAN-2 NWC-2 NWx-3*
8 Bauer, Ken 79 Kiw-3 SCA-2* SAN-3* NCA-1 USF-3* Kot-1 Ser-3*
9 Barron, Peter 72 Act-1 Hat-3* Har-1 Kot-4
10 Pecenkovic, Jasminka 64 SWR-3 NAC-4 Kot-5
11 Pecenkovic, Enes 56 Kiw-2 NAC-2* SCA-1 USF-4* Kot-3*
12 McQuade, Pete 48 COL-2* CEN-2 Rck-1
13 Allnutt, Peter 43 Can-4 USF-2
14 Spence, Steve 42 Srn-3 TCC-3
14 Nikolajeras, Vidas 42 Hur-4 Can-3
16 Farkas, Leslie 36 Hur-5 Can-5
17 Goldstein, Guy 28 Ser-2
18 McKeever, Mike 26 SWR-2
19 Fedor, Mike 25 Srn-1
19 Nobel-Cambell, Paul 25 TCC-1
21 Secor, Randy 24 SCA-3
21 Lenartovicz, Chris 24 Hur-2
23 Ulm, Gene 22 NAT-3
23 Goldstein, Anat (jr) 22 Ser-5
25 Fradkin. Igor 21 Har-3
26 MacKenzie, Patrick 20 NAT-4
27 Donnelly, Jenifer 19 SAN-4
27 Tzvetkov, Tzvetan 19 Har-4
29 Langelius, Jan 18 NAT-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 5 1
Kiw 12 2
NAC 9 3
MM -x- 4
SCA 6 5
SAN 7 6
NCA 3 7
Srn -x- 8
Spe -x- 9
Act 1 10
Cas -x- 11
Hat 3 12
I-C 6 13
COL 2 14
CEN 3 15
NAT 7 16
Hur 8 17
Can 7 18
Bro 4 19
NWC 4 20
NWx 4 21
TCC -x- 22
Rck 1 23
Har 1 24
USF 0 25
Kot 16 26
Ser 18 27
Sim 0 28
Pat 0 29
AZC 0 30

F1B
1 Andriukov, Alex 110 Kiw-2 NAC-1 Hat-1* NAT-2 Kot-1
2 Fitch, Jerry 100 SWR-2 Kiw-3 NAC-3* SCA-4* NCA-2 NWC-3* NWx-4* Kot-2
3 Jensen, Blake 99 SWR-1 SAN-4* COL-2* CEN-2 NWC-1 NWx-1 USF-5* Ser-5*
3 Simon, Greg 99 I-C-3* NAT-3* Hur-3 Can-1 Bro-1 Kot-4
5 Schlosberg, Aram 96 Act-1 Hat-3* NAT-5 Hur-1 Har-1
6 Ghio, Walt 91 SWR-3 MM-5* SCA-2 NCA-3 NWC-4* NWx-3* USF-3
7 Norvall, Larry 89 SWR-4 SCA-5* SAN-3 NWC-2 NWx-2
8 Felix, Ron 87 SWR-5* SCA-1 Hat-2 Hur-5 Can-5
9 Jones, Charles 86 Kiw-5 MM-4 SAN-5* I-C-4 CEN-3 Bro-2*
10 Horak, Ladi 79 NAC-2 Hur-2 Can-3* Ser-2
11 Malkhasyan, Sevak 59 Kiw-1 NAC-5* MM-2* USF-1* Ser-1
12 Kovhavi, Itti (jr) 56 MM-1 SCA-3* Kot-3
13 Davis, Mike 52 SAN-1 NCA-1
14 Booth, Bill 51 SAN-2 USF-4* Kot-5* Ser-3
15 Pivonka, Jace 50 COL-1 CEN-1 Rck-1*
15 Schroedter,Martin 50 Kiw-4* USF-2 Ser-4
17 MacKenzie, Patrick 48 NAT-1 Can-4
18 Mathews, Tony 44 Hur-4 Can-2
19 Simon, Evan 39 I-C-5 NAT-4
20 Piserchio, Bob 26 MM-3
20 Sifleet, Bob 26 I-C-1
22 MacCleery, Rich 24 I-C-2
23 McGluckin, Derek 22 NAC-4
24 Gerspacher, David 21 Bro-3
25 Sifleet, Bob 19 Bro-4

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 1 1
Kiw 4 2
NAC 3 3
MM 8 4
SCA 1 5
SAN -x- 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn 1 8
Spe 1 9
Act -x- 10
Cas -x- 11
Hat -x- 12
I-C -x- 13
COL -x- 14
CEN -x- 15
NAT 1 16
Hur 1 17
Can 1 18
Bro -x- 19
NWC -x- 20
NWx -x- 21
TCC -x- 22
Rck -x- 23
Har -x- 24
USF 0 25
Kot 1 26
Ser 3 27
Sim 0 28
Pat 0 29
AZC 0 30

F1C
1 Parker, Faust 102 SWR-1 Kiw-2* NAC-3* MM-1 Srn-1 Spe-1 NAT-1* Ser-2*
2 Menanno, Guy 50 NAC-1 SCA-1 Kot-1* Ser-1*
2 Ellington, Jeff 50 Kiw-1 MM-3* USF-1 Ser-3*
2 Shvedenkov, Yury 50 Hur-1 Can-1
5 Buskell, John 42 NAC-2 MM-5
6 Malkhasyan, Taron 25 MM-2
7 Chesson, Don 21 MM-4
7 Roberts, Mike 21 Kiw-3

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 2 1
Kiw 1 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 5 4
SCA 2 5
SAN -x- 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn 2 8
Spe 1 9
Act -x- 10
Cas -x- 11
Hat -x- 12
I-C -x- 13
COL -x- 14
CEN -x- 15
NAT 4 16
Hur -x- 17
Can -x- 18
Bro -x- 19
NWC -x- 20
NWx -x- 21
TCC -x- 22
Rck 25 23
Har -x- 24
USF -x- 25
Kot 1 26
Ser 1 27
Sim 0 28
Pat 0 29
AZC 0 30

F1P
1 Hanford, Bob 94 SWR-1 Srn-1 Spe-1 NAT-4
2 Fedor, Mike 68 MM-3 Srn-2 NAT-2
3 Kerger, Terry 50 Kiw-1 MM-5* SCA-2* Kot-1 Ser-1*
4 Kelly, Jim 49 MM-2 SCA-1
5 Secor. Randy 26 MM-1
6 Hayden Ashworth 25 NAT-1
7 Schneider, Glenn 23 SWR-2
8 Jim (North) Parker 21 NAT-3
9 Johannes, David 20 MM-4

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 5 1
Kiw 7 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 6 4
SCA 3 5
SAN 4 6
NCA 1 7
Srn -x- 8
Spe -x- 9
Act 3 10
Cas 1 11
Hat 3 12
I-C 3 13
COL 5 14
CEN 5 15
NAT 14 16
Hur -x- 17
Can -x- 18
Bro 3 19
NWC 4 20
NWx 4 21
TCC -x- 22
Rck 2 23
Har 3 24
USF -x- 25
Kot 6 26
Ser 7 27
Sim 0 28
Pat 0 29
AZC 0 30

F1G
1 O’Dell, Tiffaney 104 SWR-1 Kiw-4* MM-1 SAN-1* COL-1* CEN-1 NWC-2* NWx-1* Kot-1 Ser-2*
2 Jones, Geralyn 100 Kiw-1 MM-3* SAN-2* I-C-1 COL-2 CEN-2 Kot-3*
3 Fitch, Jerry 97 SWR-4 Kiw-3* MM-2* SCA-1 NWC-1 NWx-4* Kot-4* Ser-1
4 Brocks, Peter 89 SWR-2 Kiw-5* MM-4 SAN-4* COL-4* CEN-3 NWC-3* NWx-2
5 McGrath, John 72 Cas-1 COL-3 CEN-4* Rck-1
6 DeLoach, Don 58 SWR-3 COL-5 CEN-5
7 Gerspacher, David 51 NAT-1 Bro-3
7 Simon, Greg 51 NAT-2 Bro-2
9 Rousseau, Don 50 Act-1 Hat-1 Har-3*
10 Horak, Ladi 49 Kiw-2 MM-5* Kot-2 Ser-3*
11 Markos, Chuck 48 I-C-2 Bro-1
12 Gross, Jerry 46 Hat-2 Har-2
13 Richardson, Mike 44 SCA-2 SAN-3 Ser-4*
14 Petersen, Alan 43 SWR-5 Har-1
15 Buss, Bill 42 Act-3 Hat-3
16 Ewing. Rick 40 NWC-4 NWx-3
17 VanNest, Kurt 37 Kot-5 Ser-5
18 Mills, David 26 NAT-3
19 Davis, Mike 25 NCA-1
20 Gerspacher, Kyle 24 NAT-4
21 Clapp, John 23 Act-2
21 Jones, Darold 23 Rck-2
23 Matsuno, Chris 22 NAT-5
24 Pykelny, Mike 21 SCA-3
24 Crowley, Paul 21 I-C-3
26 Ghio, Walt 19 Kiw-6

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 4 1
Kiw 2 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 4 4
SCA 1 5
SAN 1 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn 2 8
Spe -x- 9
Act -x- 10
Cas -x- 11
Hat -x- 12
I-C -x- 13
COL -x- 14
CEN 1 15
NAT 3 16
Hur -x- 17
Can -x- 18
Bro -x- 19
NWC 3 20
NWx 2 21
TCC 1 22
Rck -x- 23
Har -x- 24
USF -x- 25
Kot 1 26
Ser 1 27
Sim 0 28
Pat 0 29
AZC 0 30

F1H
1 Jensen, Blake 100 SWR-1 Kiw-1* MM-1* SAN-1* CEN-1 NWC-1* NWx-1 Kot-1 Ser-1*
1 Parker, Jim 100 SWR-3* Kiw-2* MM-3* SCA-1 Srn-1 NAT-1 TCC-1
3 Fedor, Mike 69 MM-2 Srn-2 NAT-2
4 VanNest, Brian 65 SWR-4 NWC-2 NWx-2
5 Bauer, Ken 23 SWR-2
6 Reuter, Wes 21 NAT-3
6 Lane, Robert 21 NWC-3
8 Ulm, Gene 19 MM-4

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 4 1
Kiw 2 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 6 4
SCA -x- 5
SAN -x- 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn 1 8
Spe -x- 9
Act -x- 10
Cas -x- 11
Hat -x- 12
I-C -x- 13
COL -x- 14
CEN -x- 15
NAT 3 16
Hur -x- 17
Can -x- 18
Bro -x- 19
NWC -x- 20
NWx -x- 21
TCC 1 22
Rck 1 23
Har -x- 24
USF -x- 25
Kot 2 26
Ser 1 27
Sim 0 28
Pat 0 29
AZC 0 30

F1J
1 Parker, Faust 100 SWR-3* Kiw-1 MM-2* Srn-1 NAT-1 TCC-1
2 McKeever, Mike 73 SWR-1 Kot-2 Ser-1
3 Kerger, Terry 48 Kiw-2 MM-3* Kot-1
3 Hanford, Bob 48 NAT-2 Rck-1
5 Fedor, Mike 39 MM-5 NAT-3
6 Johannes, David 26 MM-1
7 Schneider, Glenn 23 SWR-2
8 Secor, Randy 20 MM-4
9 Bartick, Don 19 SWR-4

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 2 1
Kiw 4 2
NAC 4 3
MM 4 4
SCA 2 5
SAN 1 6
NCA 2 7
Srn 1 8
Spe 1 9
Act -x- 10
Cas -x- 11
Hat 1 12
I-C 1 13
COL 2 14
CEN 2 15
NAT 4 16
Hur -x- 17
Can -x- 18
Bro 1 19
NWC 2 20
NWx 2 21
TCC -x- 22
Rck 1 23
Har -x- 24
USF -x- 25
Kot 5 26
Ser 4 27
Sim 0 28
Pat 0 29
AZC 0 30

F1Q
1 Murphy, Jack 101 SWR-1 Kiw-3* NAC-3* MM-2* NCA-2* COL-1 CEN-2* NAT-4* NWC-2* NWx-1 Rck-1* Kot-1 Ser-2*
2 Tarcher, Ben 100 Kiw-1 NAC-2* MM-1 SCA-1* NCA-1 NWC-1 NWx-2* Kot-3* Ser-3*
3 Parker, Julie 98 SWR-2 Kiw-2* NAC-1 MM-3* Srn-1 Spe-1 NAT-3*
4 Sifleet, Bob 75 I-C-1 COL-2* CEN-1 NAT-1 Bro-1*
5 Seachrist, David 66 NAT-2 Kot-5 Ser-1
6 Richardson, Mike 45 SCA-2 SAN-1 Kot-4* Ser-4*
7 Ioerger, Tom 43 Kiw-4* NAC-4* MM-4 Kot-2
8 Schlosberg, Aram 25 Hat-1

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR 10 1
Kiw 6 2
NAC -x- 3
MM 9 4
SCA 4 5
SAN 2 6
NCA 4 7
Srn 1 8
Spe -x- 9
Act -x- 10
Cas 1 11
Hat -x- 12
I-C 3 13
COL 2 14
CEN 3 15
NAT 7 16
Hur -x- 17
Can -x- 18
Bro 1 19
NWC 5 20
NWx 5 21
TCC 2 22
Rck 4 23
Har 2 24
USF -x- 25
Kot 5 26
Ser 5 27
Sim 0 28
Pat 0 29
AZC 0 30

F1S
1 Murphy, Jack 104 SWR-2 Kiw-1 MM-2* NCA-1* Cas-1* COL-1* CEN-1* NAT-2* NWC-1 NWx-1 TCC-1* Rck-1* Kot-2* Ser-1*
2 Parker, Julie 98 SWR-4 Kiw-3* MM-1 Srn-1 NAT-4* TCC-2
3 Norvall, Larry 96 SWR-3 Kiw-4* SCA-2* NCA-3* NWC-2 NWx-2 Kot-3* Ser-2
4 Tarcher, Ben 75 SCA-4* NCA-4 NWC-5 NWx-5 Kot-4* Ser-4
5 Sechrist, David 73 Kiw-5* NAT-1 Kot-1 Ser-4
6 VanNest, Janna 69 MM-5* SAN-1 NWC-3 NWx-4* USF-1* Ser-3
7 Murphy, Jerry 66 SWR-5 COL-2 CEN-2 Rck-4*
8 Sifleet, Bob 50 I-C-1 NAT-3* Bro-1
9 Pangell, Rick 44 CEN-3 Rck-2
10 Menano, Guy 43 MM-4 SCA-3
11 Edmondson, Lynn 42 NWC-4 NWx-3
12 Morris, George 28 SWR-1
13 VanNest, Brian 25 SCA-1
13 Avia, Yuda 25 Har-1
15 Donnelly, Skylar (jr) 24 MM-3
15 Kerger, Terry 24 Kiw-2
17 Edmondson, Lynn 23 SAN-2
17 Lorbiecki, John 23 I-C-2
17 Masterman, Paul 23 NCA-2
17 Hooke, Drake 23 Har-2
21 Freeland, Mark 21 I-C-3
21 DeLoach, Don 21 Rck-3
23 Noldy, Maria 19 NAT-5

Key to competition abbreviations and number of sportsmen:
SWR -x- 1
Kiw 5 2
NAC -x- 3
Cal 6 4
AzC 3 5
SAN 6 6
NCA -x- 7
Srn -x- 8
Spe -x- 9
Act -x- 10
Cas -x- 11
Hat -x- 12
I-C -x- 13
COL 4 14
CEN 4 15
NAT -x- 16
Hur -x- 17
Can -x- 18
Bro -x- 19
NWC -x- 20
NWx -x- 21
TCC -x- 22
Rck -x- 23
Har -x- 24
USF -x- 25
Kot 11 26
Ser 11 27
Sim -x- 28
Pat 0 29
AZC -x- 30

F1E
1 Brocks, Peter 101 Kiw-3* Cal-4* AzC-2* SAN-2 COL-2 Kot-2 Ser-2
2 Jones, Geralyn 86 Kiw-5* Cal-3 SAN-4 COL-3 Kot-4
3 Ioerger, Tom 77 Kiw-1 Cal-1 COL-1
4 Terzian, Fred 76 AzC-1 SAN-1 Kot-3 Ser-3*
5 Parsons, David 66 Cal-2 AzC-3 SAN-5* Ser-5
6 Van Nest, Brian 64 Kiw-2 Cal-5 SAN-3
7 McKeever, Mike 58 Kot-1 Ser-1
8 Sifleet, Bob 42 COL-4 Ser-4
9 Richardson, Mike 21 Kot-5
10 Tarcher, Ben 20 Kiw-4

Finals Typo Correction
From Mike McKeever

Roger an obvious correction:

Walt Ghio’s winning score to make the team on his last fly off flight was not 240 but rather 420…he’s still the winner.

Mike

Official Results
From Mike S

Thanks to Mike McKeever for an excellent Team Finals contest report. In this era of a desire for instant news using the internet and social media, it is best to just wait until all the results are official.

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Finals Question

From:Can Tezcan

Hello,

I read the SEN 3040 and I am puzzled a bit because of the time of Guy on
F1A. One keeper has the time 20.13. According to FAI 2022 Sporting code it
is exactly 20 and not overtime.

F1.2.6 Time recorded The time recorded is the mean of the times registered
by the timekeepers, rounded to the nearest whole number of seconds to the
resulting mean time (0.5 second rounded up to the second above) unless the
difference between the times registered shows evidence of an error in the
timing, in which case the organiser will determine, with the FAI Jury,
which time will be registered as the official time or what action should be
taken.

According to F1.2.6, the time must be first rounded to its NEAREST whole
number before it can be used. I don’t know if you use a different code in
USA, which is of course possible and valid. However, if not, then his time
is 20. Seconds and he was allowed to make the second flight.
I am writing this, because it is mentioned that he did not get the second
flight because of the 0.13 overtime rather of an attempt.

However my second point is, according to the FAI Sporting Code an attempt
is
3.1. CLASS F1A – GLIDERS
3.1.5. Definition of an Unsuccessful Attempt
f) The recorded duration of the flight is less than 20 seconds.

If i am not wrong with my english language, this excludes the number of 20
completely from being an unsuccessful attempt. Less than 20 excludes 20 and
finishes as boundary in 19. if the flight reaches 19.5 seconds (see F1.2.6
to the nearest whole number) it is immediately an official flight. No need
to have the 0.13.

I hope I am not totally wrong. Please advise me otherwise.

Best Regards

Editor’s Observation.

The Finals is run according to the FAI Sporting Code. There are small differences, the first is the way the winners, i.e Team members are determined and the second is that the AMA requires the Jury, in particular the Head Jurist to very involved.

At the event there was some confusion because not all timekeepers assigned to Guy timed the model properly. There was very little time left in the round to properly review the circumstances, so Guy flew again and the circumstances were reviewed afterwards and it was found that the last flight should not be counted. If Guy had not flown and it was found after the fact that he could have, that would have been a much worse situation. The final result was “sporting result” and correct in the way attempts are recognized.