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  2. Dreaming ?
  3. Interesting Ideas ?
  4. Try Simple
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The weather forecast for our contest had not looked good which resulted in only 3 flyers from other states making the trip to Eloy this year. When I arrived at the Webster West field Friday morning the ground was brown from good rains a few days ago but firm for driving and drying up fast.
Saturday had great weather with the wind mostly out of the S, never more than 5mph and temperatures up to 70° with just a few clouds. In F1A all 6 flyers were clean after 5 rounds – four of them made the first (6-minute max) fly-off. Shlomi Rosenzweig won in the 2nd fly-off. In F1Q Ben Tarcher and Jack Murphy maxed out the 5 rounds. In the fly-off only Ben made the 6 minutes to win and secure his F1Q America’s Cup win.
Saturday night it rained a bit but before the contest started Sunday morning the top ground layer was nearly firm and walking and driving was no problem. Sunday’s flying started out with a temperature of 55°. All day it was overcast with the temperature not exceeding 63° and the wind between 0 to 6mph mostly out of the S. In F1S four out of the 5 competitors maxed out all 5 rounds. Two F1S flyers then maxed the first fly-off round. The 2nd fly-off was won by George Morris. In F1G Peter Brocks was the lone flyer. He won by maxing the 5 rounds.
Peter Brocks, FAI CD

Dec. 7,8, 2019 at Eloy, Arizona                Peter Brocks, CD

F1A                  1   2   3   4   5 F/O F/O         Total
1    Shlomi Rosenzweig  180 180 180 180 180 360 442      1702
2    Enes Pecenkovic  B  180    180 180 180 360 306      1566
3    Jim Farmer         180 180 180 180 180 360 223      1483
4    Peter Brocks       180 180 180 180 180 360 207      1467
5    Jasminka Pecenk.BI 180 180 180 180 180 231          1131
6    Joey Farmer        180 180 180 180 180 133          1033

5    F1Q                  1   2   3   4   5 F/O             Total
1    Ben Tarcher        180 180 180 180 180 360          1260
2    Jack Murphy        180 189 180 180 180 217          1117

F1G                  1   2   3   4   5 F/O             Total
1    Peter Brocks       120 120 120 120 120 140           740

F1S                  1   2   3   4   5 F/O F/O        Total
1    George Morris      120 120 120 120 120 120 139       859
2    Allan Mecham       120 120 120 120 120 120 109       829
3    Robert Donnelly    120 120 120 120 120 118           718
4    Jack Murphy        120 120 120 120 120 103           703
5    Ben Tarcher         10 120  86 120  83               419



Dreaming ?
From: Michael Achterberg

Heard a rumor about adding or separate contest for Electric World Championships. For the  2 main Electric  events F1s and F1q. Due to this growing popularity think this rumor, if true is a good idea. F1S/E36 had the most entrees at the Nats last year someone told me.Think it would be a Great addition to next World Champs in France. It would probably get teams from 25 to 30 countries. Maybe held the week before main events. Everybody there a week early anyway. Anybody got any info on this rumor???

Interesting Ideas ?
From:Charles Markos

Interesting ideas for limiting performance have been offered lately.
Although no longer in the more serious side of the game, I still fly F1A
and F1G because they are fun and I have a desire to keep participation
levels from sinking too quickly.  The suggestions offered do have some
drawbacks.   For F1A larger pennants, a lightweight sphere and the
imposition of helmets have been mentioned.   Pennant size would have to be
subject to much more serious measurements than I have observed at most
competitions.   The reason is that the desired effect is an aerodynamic one
rather than visibility to timers.  I have often seen pennants that had
become quite ratty from use and may not meet the specification to which
they were originally set.  Likewise the dimensions of a styrofoam sphere.
Helmet quality would have to be specified, for example I would guess that
motocross helmets have strict requirements.  A towline length reduced to 25
meters has been said to make circle towing much too difficult.   The one
thing that all the suggestions have in common is that there is no data to
support them. The history of model aircraft rules development is replete
with rules that do little to accomplish their stated purpose for that very
reason.  So, in that mode I would like to propose a ridiculous rule change
for F1A:   Tether the contestant to a 5-meter rope that is firmly anchored
to the ground.

Chuck Markos

Editor’s Comment – I believe the FFTSC did check some of the previous line modification proposals(length and//or weight of towline) and found them to not practical for novice, older and less athletic sportsman.  Allar said that tests had been done on the pennant proposal, as I believe Allard is on the FFTSC I would assume it had been tested seriously.

Helmets are used in the C/L and R/C racing and combat classes so would fit well with F1A.


Try Simple
From:  Manuel Blanco

Hi  again:  Many people  say  WEIGHT “” is simple “” Stepanchuk an many others ,It is possible to use   in F1A, B and C

Not to make RARE  devises ,    complicated rulers etc .  It is the best
solution, and the models will be more strong  because we can use more fiber
or wood ,  motor reducer , and create new technologies this is good for
our sport .  regards Manolito


From:Ron Marking
The attempt rule should have been dropped when they dropped ROG!

Ron Marking